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![[*]](./images/iconic/default_icon.gif) posted on 7-21-2010 at 05:08 PM |
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Ugh... K-Love now on 93.7
Just what we need: More clogging of the FM band with stupid, weak-minded jesus freak music.
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 05:13 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alcyone
Just what we need: More clogging of the FM band with stupid, weak-minded jesus freak music. |
i know some pretty strong minded Christians, and some VERY good Christian music ... though the idea of pushing the
K-Love agenda is a tad much for my personal tastes LOL
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 06:29 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alcyone
Just what we need: More clogging of the FM band with stupid, weak-minded jesus freak music. |
Finally we can agree on something!!!
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 07:51 PM |
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Where is the stick for this 93.7 repeater?
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 08:17 PM |
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For being on 93.7, I would think it would show up as an LPFM station , but it doesn't. Why does it bother you anyways Alcyone? So they found a
repeater so what? No one is forcing you to listen to it are they?
So get just get over it and listen to something else if it bothers you this much!
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 08:40 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RadioDude
For being on 93.7, I would think it would show up as an LPFM station , but it doesn't. Why does it bother you anyways Alcyone? So they found a
repeater so what? No one is forcing you to listen to it are they?
So get just get over it and listen to something else if it bothers you this much!
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The issue, Dude, especially with this format, is that these stations, licensed as "non-profit" but supporting the billion-dollar contemporary
Christian music industry, are filling up the dial with repeaters where repeaters aren't really needed. In the process, they're undertaking a very
deliberate campaign to outbid and squeeze out actual non-profit local public-access broadcasters.
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 10:24 PM |
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Radiodude,
It bothers me because, as already stated by boondocker, it's an unneeded repeater (just like what way fm has) and it's disrupting the clarity of one
of my favorite stations: KRKU on 93.9. Not to mention, 93.7 was a nice wide open frequency for portable and whole house FM transmitters. Now, the
only option is to squeeze between stations because the dial is so cluttered.
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 10:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by duder
Finally we can agree on something!!! |
Miracles really do happen! 
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| posted on 7-21-2010 at 11:42 PM |
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Would someone fill me in and post the calls to this thing or the station it's translating?
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 12:01 AM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by RadioDude
For being on 93.7, I would think it would show up as an LPFM station , but it doesn't. Why does it bother you anyways Alcyone? So they found a
repeater so what? No one is forcing you to listen to it are they?
So get just get over it and listen to something else if it bothers you this much!
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The issue is these stations are like ****roaches...they spread like crazy and while other species (stations) die off they some how get
stronger.
And seriously, aren't you the one asking for more "creative" formats??? How many religious stations can one city have???
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 12:02 AM |
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Seriously, we can't say "cockroaches"!!!!
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 12:37 AM |
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Please, we're all adults here... Call them "penisroaches"...
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 12:46 AM |
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Fixed it... BOOGER err... COCKROACHES!!!
And if you feel the urge, you may also now masturbate...
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 01:14 AM |
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Finally I agree with duder on somthing also. My best guess is that this must be the Limon to Deer Trail MP for KIIQ?
There likely goes the Ward repeater for KGNU, which would be motivation enough for a "Christian" FM to take that frequency.
"Peace by 2020, with or without people".
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 07:20 AM |
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Religious formats dominant in this country. Hands down the #1 format on radio is some form of religious teaching or
religious/faith based music ... inherently there's nothing wrong with that ... but I've had enough of the double standard where underwriting
announcements are concerned ... that does bother me .. .the music and message do not bother me. I don't and would not listen to them anymore than I'd
ever listen to KBPI for all it's satanic / misogynist / hedonistic programming ...
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 02:19 PM |
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you know what is the most interesting part of this whole thing! KLOVE didn;t need to be put on 93.7 one bit! Infact they already are on a repeater at
94.9, and the 93.7 is up here in Northern Colorado for some odd reason Klove just had to be on that frequency and it;'s not even listed in their list
at all either.
So that makes 3 places that shows it's not on there.. 1. Klove.com 2. FCC database 3. Radio-locator.com.
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 04:38 PM |
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Folks, are we sure this is a repeater for the "K-Love" product? Or could it be a repeater for Springs-originated contemporary Christian station
KBIQ-FM 102.7?
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 05:12 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Boondocker
Folks, are we sure this is a repeater for the "K-Love" product? Or could it be a repeater for Springs-originated contemporary Christian station
KBIQ-FM 102.7? |
Now why int he world would KBIQ want to even have a repeater in Northern Colorado? Seriously therei s no reason for it one bit! And besides it is
KLOVE, I listened this morning to all 3 frequencies and it is differently KLOVE.
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 05:30 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Boondocker
Folks, are we sure this is a repeater for the "K-Love" product? Or could it be a repeater for Springs-originated contemporary Christian station
KBIQ-FM 102.7? |
It's defintely K-Love. It plays the exact same programming, in sync with 91.1. Also, the digital display on my radio for 93.7 reads "K-LOVE 91.1".
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 05:50 PM |
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Look at all this. How is taking up all these frequencies necessary? It's the exact same programming. Some even overlap in coverage area. I'm
surprised this is allowed.
-from radiolocator.net
K207EG 89.3 FM Yuma, CO (170 watts)
K209CC 89.7 FM Lake City, CO (96 watts)
K232EF 94.3 FM Estes Park, CO (250 watts)
K235BT 94.9 FM Masonville, CO (65 watts)
K292FM 106.3 FM Denver, CO (12 watts)
And now 93.7
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 06:13 PM |
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will we all don;t need to worry about 93.7 anymore, I just checked now and 93.7 is off the air.. so that ends that. :)
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 06:22 PM |
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Will i did a Google Search for KLOVE on 93.7 and I came across a forum that a person also been wondering what the sound was on 93.7 and here is one of
the responses:
"Could it possibly be an FM translator station going up in Lakewood CO (FCC data below). They're currently licensed for 105.5 and have a construction
permit to build another translator on 93.7. It could be that they're doing some testing on the new translator station.
FM Query Results -- Audio Division (FCC) USA
It appears that their 105.5 translator has been off the air due to interference complaints by KJAC. The 93.7 frequency construction permit may be what
they're doing to resolve the interference issues. The K288EX call isn't standard for the 93.7 frequency (105.5 is channel 288 while 93.7 is channel
229 so the call should be K229xx for the 93.7 frequency), so a new call sign may be pending as well."
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From what i found out on the FCC database the response I posted above seem to be true, it seems like our dear fred VIC is trying to put another
station on at 93.7 and I think he thought temporarly to carry KLove.. Why he would be doing this since he already has KRKU on at 93.9 is anyones guess
but here is the app link from the fcc database:
https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?co...
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| posted on 7-22-2010 at 09:10 PM |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alcyone
| Quote: | Originally posted by Boondocker
Folks, are we sure this is a repeater for the "K-Love" product? Or could it be a repeater for Springs-originated contemporary Christian station
KBIQ-FM 102.7? |
It's defintely K-Love. It plays the exact same programming, in sync with 91.1. Also, the digital display on my radio for 93.7 reads "K-LOVE 91.1".
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OK, thanks. The reason I asked is that for many years KIIQ had been the call letters for the 102.7 station licensed to Manitou Springs that was top-40
in the '80s and then flipped to contemporary Christian.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Alcyone
Look at all this. How is taking up all these frequencies necessary? It's the exact same programming. Some even overlap in coverage area. I'm
surprised this is allowed.
-from radiolocator.net
K207EG 89.3 FM Yuma, CO (170 watts)
K209CC 89.7 FM Lake City, CO (96 watts)
K232EF 94.3 FM Estes Park, CO (250 watts)
K235BT 94.9 FM Masonville, CO (65 watts)
K292FM 106.3 FM Denver, CO (12 watts)
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What caused this is pretty well described in a Wikipedia article:
An FCC licensing window for new translator applications in 2003 resulted in over 13,000 applications being filed, most of them coming from religious
broadcasters. Due to the extremely high volume of license applications, LPFM advocates describe this as the Great Translator Invasion.
A few broadcasters have taken advantage of FM translator regulations which allow non-commercial stations to feed distant translators from
satellite-delivered programming hundreds or even thousands of miles outside the parent station's coverage area. However, it is a misconception that
all translators can be fed by satellites. Only translators located on the non-commercial portion of the FM band (88.1 to 91.9mHz) can be so-called
"Satellators". All other translators must be fed off the air by direct radio reception, except in the case of so called "fill-in" facilities that
exist within the service contour of a primary station. Translators may also be used to feed other translators, so it is possible to create small
chains of translators all fed from one distant station, however, this only works until the chain is broken and, if any one translator fails, the
entire network beyond the failed translator goes down, too.
The application window of 2003 resulted in so many applications, many from one religious broadcasting group, that the FCC was overloaded and issued an
emergency hold order on new translator applications until the present batch can be sorted through; this came after considerable criticism from LPFM
lobbyist groups such as Prometheus Radio.
These translator applications were all on the commercial band and none of them can be used as satellators. It is unknown how the one broadcast group
with the most applications planned to deliver programming to all of the translators, but affiliated churches of the parent organization own
broadcasting outlets in many of the cities.
Some religious broadcasting outlets — such as Calvary Chapel's KAWZ-Twin Falls, Idaho, Educational Media Foundation or Family Radio's
KEAR-FM-Sacramento – are relayed by hundreds of FM "translator" stations across the US. As these parent stations are owned by non-profit organizations
and they exist on the non-commercial part of the spectrum, they are not required to have their translators receive their signal over the air, as would
be required for a commercial broadcaster. This has been used by a number of religious broadcasters to set up large satellite-based networks composed
almost entirely of "distant translators" – translators outside of the market area (generally a 50-mile radius surrounding the transmitter). ...
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