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[*] posted on 7-22-2010 at 09:38 PM


There IS a way to reverse this madness. At a Public Radio Conference in St. Louis in 1988 during a session with FCC officials, I proposed that translators could be fed by any means possible -- but only to locations within a 250 mile radius of the station of origination (associate stations fed by a station out-of-state/beyond 250 miles could not feed translators unless the associate station had a minimum of 5 full-time employees engaged in on-air programming (the five full-time employee requirement would then reflect membership rules for public station membership with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting). Wages for the 5 employees would have to conform to local market wages for radio stations.

Of course, the FCC at the time wanted to hear nothing of this. We were in the beginnings of the de-regulation roller coaster for broadcasting. When Uncle Newt came along a few years later, all he did was pour gasoline on the fire, while "slick Willie" stood back and did nothing to stop it. Keep this in mind, the next time you hear unchallenged propaganda over the "public's" airwaves.

Community service is the key to taking down these intrusive religious zealots. No, we don't HAVE to listen, but they are keeping a lot of communities around the country from having sound alternative listening choices on their radios. This condition is only accelerating the death of radio.
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[*] posted on 7-22-2010 at 09:43 PM


humm looks like what i posted got either ignored or over sighted? In any case how about reading the damn thing? What i posted is also very useful to this point.



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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 12:13 AM


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There IS a way to reverse this madness. At a Public Radio Conference in St. Louis in 1988 during a session with FCC officials, I proposed that translators could be fed by any means possible -- but only to locations within a 250 mile radius of the station of origination (associate stations fed by a station out-of-state/beyond 250 miles could not feed translators unless the associate station had a minimum of 5 full-time employees engaged in on-air programming (the five full-time employee requirement would then reflect membership rules for public station membership with the Corporation for Public Broadcasting). Wages for the 5 employees would have to conform to local market wages for radio stations.

Of course, the FCC at the time wanted to hear nothing of this. We were in the beginnings of the de-regulation roller coaster for broadcasting. When Uncle Newt came along a few years later, all he did was pour gasoline on the fire, while "slick Willie" stood back and did nothing to stop it. Keep this in mind, the next time you hear unchallenged propaganda over the "public's" airwaves.

Community service is the key to taking down these intrusive religious zealots. No, we don't HAVE to listen, but they are keeping a lot of communities around the country from having sound alternative listening choices on their radios. This condition is only accelerating the death of radio.


That sounds like a great idea. Unfortunately, I don't think there are 5 full time honest to goodness programming employees left at wilks, KBNO, max media, NRC or anything that's not CC, LFM or ETM. Salem?..I don't think anyone has 5 full time staffers per station.
Apart to point out how ridiculous things have gotten, I say that to say this: while the religious broadcasters abuse the non-commercial status they're given, they're no worse than the cheap small commercial broadcaster or the cheap large corporate broadcaster: the industry is screwed by design.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 07:49 AM


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humm looks like what i posted got either ignored or over sighted? In any case how about reading the damn thing? What i posted is also very useful to this point.


Dude, your link went to a blank FCC form. Try again.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 08:25 AM


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humm looks like what i posted got either ignored or over sighted? In any case how about reading the damn thing? What i posted is also very useful to this point.


Dude, your link went to a blank FCC form. Try again.


Try again dude, I just clicked on it and it brought it up just fine.




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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 09:40 AM


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humm looks like what i posted got either ignored or over sighted? In any case how about reading the damn thing? What i posted is also very useful to this point.


Dude, your link went to a blank FCC form. Try again.


Try again dude, I just clicked on it and it brought it up just fine.


Nope...just goes to a blank form like Boon said.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 09:48 AM


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humm looks like what i posted got either ignored or over sighted? In any case how about reading the damn thing? What i posted is also very useful to this point.


Dude, your link went to a blank FCC form. Try again.


Try again dude, I just clicked on it and it brought it up just fine.


Nope...just goes to a blank form like Boon said

Now I know that link worked i just tired it out myself! It come up in another window and it shows the app for Vics station.




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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 10:02 AM


Dude, I'm just getting the blank FCC form as well. If you try it from a different computer, you'll see what we're seeing.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 11:27 AM


The stupid forum software cut off some of RadioDude's url link info...

(Update: url BB codes barf on https links, cut and paste the url...)

Dude's link to FCC application

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https://licensing.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/ws.exe/prod/cdbs/forms/prod/cdbsmenu.hts?context=25&appn=101391695&formid=350&fac_num=140231


Use one of the BB codes for URL when posting links that contain data (have ? and = characters)...
http://www.denverradio.net/newforum/faq.php?page=messages#7

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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 11:44 AM


And of course the #$@% thing still doesn't work... You might have to be on the FCC site with the correct security cookie to go to the page...

As for me, I'm going to eat my (lunch) cookie...




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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 11:52 AM


will i am on my Android phone and i clicked on the link and i was still able to get into the application. so i don't know what to tell u all?



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Your browser still has the FCC security cookie in its memory...

They know who you are dude... Be afraid... be very afraid... (Just kidding, I hope...)




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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 12:06 PM


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Your browser still has the FCC security cookie in its memory...

They know who you are dude... Be afraid... be very afraid... (Just kidding, I hope...)


Yep Gladiator is offically kidding.




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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 01:45 PM


Boondocker, that was interesting information about translators.

As for RadioDude's FCC application link, I was able to read it just fine using ie8 in windows 7.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 02:12 PM


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Boondocker, that was interesting information about translators.

As for RadioDude's FCC application link, I was able to read it just fine using ie8 in windows 7.


Fasincating indeed.. It works fine in Windows 7 and Ie 8 and in Android. Well I am sorry guys that most of you are having a hard time for once, this is a first ever that anyone complained about a link that was added by anyone on here.




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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 04:38 PM


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Boondocker, that was interesting information about translators.

As for RadioDude's FCC application link, I was able to read it just fine using ie8 in windows 7.


Grrr. I'm using Vista and it's just not coming up. I also get the blank form when I try to open it in AOL. So I may have to try my daughter's laptop. This is totally weird.
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[*] posted on 7-23-2010 at 04:49 PM


all i can access is a blank application ... I'm using Firefox



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[*] posted on 7-24-2010 at 10:48 PM


WIll I just found out by driving down W. Mulberry heading East, I tuned into 93.7 just to see what was there or if Klove was still on that frequency and I found out. It is and it hardly comes in up in fort collins. So I am guessing it is near Denver, but why would vick want to do this?




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WIll I just found out by driving down W. Mulberry heading East, I tuned into 93.7 just to see what was there or if Klove was still on that frequency and I found out. It is and it hardly comes in up in fort collins. So I am guessing it is near Denver, but why would vick want to do this?



If someone is trying to put a station on 93.7, wouldn't it be possible that they are simply testing equipment and a KLOVE signal is bleeding over??? If they are not running programming it may seem like it is only a KLOVE signal..... I mean the station has gone on and off numerous times over the last couple of days, seems like a logical reason.
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[*] posted on 7-25-2010 at 03:50 PM


Dude and Duder:
Don't get ruder.
Had to edit your posts
At my compuder.

Cyber-bullying
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So let's play nice
And just talk radio!

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[*] posted on 7-25-2010 at 04:42 PM


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Dude and Duder:
Don't get ruder.
Had to edit your posts
At my compuder.

Cyber-bullying
Doesn't make the gradio.
So let's play nice
And just talk radio!

If you guys don't cool it,
With these back-and-forth crimes
You'll have to read more
Of my insipid rhymes!


No "Cyber-bullying" here....just tired of reading the same posts over and over again when there are other logical reasons out there.

Nice poem though!!!
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[*] posted on 7-27-2010 at 12:11 PM


Ok I got the response that I was waiting for from KLOVE.. and it seems like they are the ones that gave the owner of that transmitter permission at no cost to Klove to rebroadcast their station



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[*] posted on 7-27-2010 at 03:00 PM
NO MORE K-LOVE!


Has anybody noticed 93.7 is currantly simulcasting (in mono like they should) MHSR 1510 AM?



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[*] posted on 7-27-2010 at 04:11 PM


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Has anybody noticed 93.7 is currantly simulcasting (in mono like they should) MHSR 1510 AM?


Yep I did. Also, I don't know who's on there now but I just heard him say they will be simulcasting 24/7 on 93.7.




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[*] posted on 7-27-2010 at 04:39 PM


Yep, just noticed that today.

Great move by MHSR! Glad they didn't want to put Avs and Nuggets fans through another season of crappy radio signals.
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